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Cubes Vs. Dots Mac Os X
- The quoted tweet is the second of 2. The first is:
Now the article actually makes sense.in 1995, while interning at apple, i bought a NeXT cube for $150 at stanford surplus while designing mac os X with steve, he liked to tell us how the NeXT was better so i started bringing in my cube to win arguments by showing him that things weren't as good as he remembered - How would he have bought the NeXT 'specifically' for that in 1995? Steve wasn't back at Apple and OS X wasn't in the work.
He had the NeXT fo years and brought it in to proof Steve wrong. - More Steve Jobs wannabes. Money quote from AppleInsider: 'The company has yet to reveal what 'innovative technology' it is creating.'
- edited March 25
I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say, but my best guess is that you're confusing the stated year of 1995 when they were working on the port with the official announcement of Apple agreeing to buy NexT (because the port was clearly going to work) and getting Jobs to be the interim-CEO (iCEO) which happened on 16 September 1997.How would he have bought the NeXT 'specifically' for that in 1995? Steve wasn't back at Apple and OS X wasn't in the work.
He had the NeXT fo years and brought it in to proof Steve wrong. - edited March 25
In terms of wanting to want to change the tech world why is that a bad goal? Should people simply give up if they they won't be the next Steve Jobs?More Steve Jobs wannabes. Money quote from AppleInsider: 'The company has yet to reveal what 'innovative technology' it is creating.' - Retelling Imran's story, PPT style, for clarity:
• in 1995, while interning at apple, i bought a NeXT cube for $150 at stanford surplus
• while designing mac os X with steve, he liked to tell us how the NeXT was better
• so i started bringing in my cube to win arguments by showing him that things weren't as good as he remembered
• this happened so often that it got to the point where if he walked in and saw the cube in the room, he'd just let it go
• still the best $150 i've spent - I really like stories like this, shows how hands-on Steve was and how he had a part in every aspect of the company.edited March 25
Yeah because if that was the case, Cook best quit now.
In terms of wanting to wants to change the tech world why is that a bad goal? Should people simply give up if they they won't be the next Steve Jobs?More Steve Jobs wannabes. Money quote from AppleInsider: 'The company has yet to reveal what 'innovative technology' it is creating.' - edited March 25
Apple didn’t announce their intention to buy NeXT until December 1996. It is hard to believe that Apple was working with Steve Jobs as early as 1995. I’m guessing that the designer is misremembering the date.
I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say, but my best guess is that you're confusing the stated year of 1995 when they were working on the port with the official announcement of Apple agreeing to buy NexT (because the port was clearly going to work) and getting Jobs to be the interim-CEO (iCEO) which happened on 16 September 1997.How would he have bought the NeXT 'specifically' for that in 1995? Steve wasn't back at Apple and OS X wasn't in the work.
He had the NeXT fo years and brought it in to proof Steve wrong.Edit: According to Avi Tevanian NeXT wasn’t even in contact with Apple until just about a month before the decision to acquire them. So that 1995 date is definitely wrong.https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2017/07/102740143-05-01-acc.pdf - The guy is doing a shameless self-promotion on the back of a guy who can’t contradict him anymore.edited March 25
NeXT was better, in MANY ways, e.g. the side on which scrollbars are is more efficient for western left-to-right scripts.
E.g. the floating, pop-up-able, vertical application menu is much better than the menu bar, the latter sucking badly both on small and really big/multiple screens.
A guy who buys a NeXT to prove his point without actually having adapted to the NeXT workflow has zero credibility.
I used NeXTs from 1989 till … and both Mac OS of various flavors before and after. There are still Tricks NeXTStep could teach macOS, which ever more turns into a version Windows, because the number of people at Apple who still understand the design principles of NeXT and have any influence are homeopathically diluted… - The Open Sesame Distributed computing App blew my mind.
Yeah, I miss the Shelf to this day.The guy is doing a shameless self-promotion on the back of a guy who can’t contradict him anymore.
NeXT was better, in MANY ways, e.g. the side on which scrollbars are is more efficient for western left-to-right scripts.
E.g. the floating, pop-up-able, vertical application menu is much better than the menu bar, the latter sucking badly both on small and really big/multiple screens.
A guy who buys a NeXT to prove his point without actually having adapted to the NeXT workflow has zero credibility.
I used NeXTs from 1989 till … and both Mac OS of various flavors before and after. There are still Tricks NeXTStep could teach macOS, which ever more turns into a version Windows, because the number of people at Apple who still understand the design principles of NeXT and have any influence are homeopathically diluted…
Another interesting milestone to think about is Swift. When Apple announced Swift, I felt that it represented the end of NeXTSTEP. Objective-C and a dynamic runtime is the magic that was NeXTSTEP, Mac OS X and its derivatives. As Swift increasingly becomes the default language for app development and as Obj-C becomes deprecated, I think it represents a different type of operating system. It really would deserve a Mac OS XI or Mac OS 11 moniker when that happens.
Speaking of the NeXTcube, it was a beautiful industrial design. I'm not talking about the outside. I'm talking about the inside. Was hoping that Apple returns to that type of design: a I/O mezzanine with boards that slot into it. Had 2 slots on opposite ends of the mezzanine board (4 slots total) with 5.25' bays and power supply in between. The CPU system board and NeXTdimension GPU/media board would go into the slots. Apple has variants of this with the Mac Pro through the years, but never all the way. The 2019 Mac Pro could have gone all the way if the CPU and RAM were on a daughter board with a 64 lane PCIe interface. The 2013 Mac Pro essentially did the CPU main board, I/O mezzanine board and PCIe slots for GPU boards, but it was expandable like the NeXTcube was or the 2019 Mac Pro is.
Will be interesting what Apple does with the rumored Mac Half Pro. Half because it is rumored to be about half the size of the 2019 Mac Pro. If it is $2000 definitely quite tempted.- I still have my OpenStep computer but need a keyboard and mouse for it. It would be fun to fire it up.
Would this help?I still have my OpenStep computer but need a keyboard and mouse for it. It would be fun to fire it up.
https://www.drakware.com/shop/p/nextusb- edited March 26